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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic, I know, but I can't imagine making everyone wait while I write down an exhibit description, not in this day and age (meaning post-steno paper only). Descriptions and/or numbers are easily searchable right there. If they're asking what it was or whether it was marked, it takes seconds to find.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoot, lawyers here don't even give you time to mark an exhibit before they start talking again.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When marking exhibits, I use post-it notes first. I let everyone know before the start of the depo that they can use it to keep track of the exhibits or I can quickly set it on. A simple "Plaintiff's A" or whatever is all I need. Then during a break or at the conclusion of a depo, I put my exhibit stickers on there. The post-it notes are easier and faster while I'm on the record.

Nobody has ever said no to me. Even though I tell everyone I can quickly set it on, attorneys or witnesses usually gladly volunteer to put it on instead. So hey, it's simple and keeps everything in order.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Joyce, you made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you really asking when it's an "I" question?

Sample: I think you told me earlier that you were a woman of integrity........is that correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On those long captions where they give me no caption, I just jot down the case number and ask the taking attorney to provide me the name of his legal assistant. Then I just have them fax/e-mail it to me when I get home.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then w/out the captions w/ the names they're mentioning over and over and over and over, we're fumbling around, when we could've had short forms all created for those names.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When all of my equipment is packed up is usually when that "missing" exhibit question comes up, so it comes in handy to have a list.

Also, I've had attorneys glance over at my list so they know what number they're up to.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, I'm glad I made you laugh out loud!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MemphisTigers wrote:
Shoot, lawyers here don't even give you time to mark an exhibit before they start talking again.


That is forevermore the truth.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next, give the booger pens to the attorney who keeps borrowed pens in his mouth Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stenoray wrote:
Next, give the booger pens to the attorney who keeps borrowed pens in his mouth Twisted Evil


Note to self: Add biohazard bag to my steno case to preserve pens to take advantage of this awesome idea! Applause
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kathryn, that's usually what happens....LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We presented a seminar similar to this at the ISRA convention last year. We had prepared a bunch of questions ahead of time which I gave to the panel members before the seminar. The panel was comprised of an attorney, a judge, and a CR agency owner. It was in a town hall format and there was a lot of dialogue back and forth. The gist of it was for the panel members to answer questions about things that a CR might want to know but isn't necessarily comfortable asking their own clients directly. It was very well received and the time went by quickly.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What should an attorney do when he/she learns that a court reporter or a court reporting firm is or has been utilized because someone in his/her office received or was promised to receive a gift card or any other item of value?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you expect judicious editing or not when you stutter or say, "Strike that"?

How do you value the reporting services monetarily? Is it a substantial portion of your expenses, ripe for discipline? Understanding that it irks us when, yes, you have several attorneys there at $300/hr, you're paying the expert $2,000 for the deposition, and we're being jousted with over mileage and whether a rough draft will cost $120 extra (as a hypothetical).

Do you ever hear fast or overlapping speech and wonder if it's gettable for the reporter? Or does it just go into the big generic bucket of "speech"? Because this might help us get braver about interrupting if we know you're oblivious.

Whoops, back to my depo. More later. Maybe.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kendmans wrote:
MemphisTigers wrote:
Shoot, lawyers here don't even give you time to mark an exhibit before they start talking again.


That is forevermore the truth.


I like the Post-it notes suggestion, but I mean, they don't even give us time to take our hands off the keyboard, not even five seconds. Frustrated

And we can look up a case online here later with a docket number, but I do like to see the names before I try to write them. And calling an attorney's assistant later to get the style is like playing phone tag; it is usually just a hassle.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I could be in attendance!

I would like to ask two blasphemous questions.

Which would you prefer to see in your transcript?

A Uh-uh.
A Uh-uh (negative).

Do you think if the reporter notes the "negative" that he/she is overstepping the bounds of what's acceptable to you, or is that something you would like reporters to note?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MemphisTigers wrote:
Shoot, lawyers here don't even give you time to mark an exhibit before they start talking again.

"You're not on the record" shuts them up for a second.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonMeadors wrote:
MemphisTigers wrote:
Shoot, lawyers here don't even give you time to mark an exhibit before they start talking again.

"You're not on the record" shuts them up for a second.


Exactly!!! Learn to speak UP, people!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regale wrote:
Really dislike hand-writing those long captions, usually what we're stuck doing when a copier is inconvenient/unavailable. If you have a smartphone, sometimes it's easier to just take a photo of the caption (works well for the documents that are quoted from, that you're not able to take with you - like exhibits from previous depos that are not entered into the record of your depo), and reference the photo when preparing the transcript. Sometimes immediately sending the photo to yourself by email is a good idea -- especially if you're like me and do silly things like send photos to trash, or drop your phone in the sink, leave it on the bumper of the car and drive off, etc. etc.


The iPhone has an app called Cam Scanner. I'm sure there are other apps out there too. It takes a picture of the document, converts it to the file format you want (pdf) and you can email it to yourself. I use it a lot!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hapster wrote:
JasonMeadors wrote:
MemphisTigers wrote:
Shoot, lawyers here don't even give you time to mark an exhibit before they start talking again.

"You're not on the record" shuts them up for a second.


Exactly!!! Learn to speak UP, people!!!

H


Exactly indeed. (With apologies to Lisa, as this is still off topic, but I know you expect this from forum.depoman.com anyways.)

When you speak up, you help train the attorneys and therefore help the reporters who come after you.

And guess what. When you speak up, nothing earth-shattering happens. I had to speak up several times yesterday. You know what happened? Everybody laughed. They knew the situation was impossible for me.

Really, my post is to encourage the younger reporters to interrupt. It's absolutely okay and very necessary.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question:

Would you prefer on the index that the court reporter merely note the page number that the exhibit was marked at (or the question was certified, or whatever the event was), or would you like to see the page *and line number*?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, another one that kind of goes along with the "uh-uh" one. Which would you prefer to see?

A (Nodded head.)
A (Nodded head affirmatively.)

I ask that because I cannot begin to tell you how many times I have had attorneys say, "You're shaking your head 'yes.'") I don't think the "shaking" and "nodding" necessarily translate beyond the court reporting community.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A (Nodded head.)
A (Nodded head affirmatively.)

I split the difference.

(Nodding head up and down.)
(Shaking head side to side.)

No judgment of whether that is an affirmative or negative response. They can interpret it any way they wish.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whose head is going to explode when all these critical questions are presented and some litigator comes back with the honest answer that, "Hey, we don't give a /SH*EUT about any of this. Have you people lost your mind?"

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about do attorneys even ever look at the index?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question would be: Why don't more attorneys stand up to their clients over the contracting issue, instead of just saying, "Sorry Mr./Ms. Reporter, I wish I could do something about it, but that's my client and my hands are tied."
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Educational flyer Reply with quote

spdefngrs wrote:
My question would be: Why don't more attorneys stand up to their clients over the contracting issue, instead of just saying, "Sorry Mr./Ms. Reporter, I wish I could do something about it, but that's my client and my hands are tied."


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peg, nice flyer, but it doesn't address the question of why the attorneys don't stand up to their clients over the contracting issues.
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